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00:00:00:02 - 00:00:27:13 Speaker 1 So welcome to Founders in Motion, where we bring you stories from founders, operators and builders in the thick of figuring it all out. I’m Thea, your host, and I’m so very excited for this episode to welcome one of my closest friends in life, turn health and wellness startup founder, Selina. Selina is the founder of gymii.ai, a platform dedicated to make nutrition tracking easy and social.
00:00:27:15 - 00:00:41:18 Speaker 1 What started as a passion project has grown into a full release, app that recently launched on the App Store early February. By the time this has aired. Selina, welcome to the podcast.
00:00:41:20 - 00:00:45:08 Speaker 2 Thank you. Thank you for having me here at the,
00:00:45:10 - 00:00:45:20 Speaker 1 Wow.
00:00:45:20 - 00:00:51:01 Speaker 2 So I know this is so weird.
00:00:51:03 - 00:01:12:22 Speaker 1 But I’m very, very excited, to see your journey in the last couple of months. And I’m so excited for people to finally experience gymii in the comforts of their own home. So tell me a little bit about gymii, and, why should that be the one app that any listener today should download?
00:01:12:24 - 00:01:38:08 Speaker 2 Yeah. Happy to. So gymii is an AI powered consumer app, that has the goal of making nutrition tracking easy and social as you said. So what gymii allows users to do is instead of manually logging their food items and their meals, you can just simply take a photo or snap a video of the meal, and our AI will automatically break it down to the various dishes ingredients
00:01:38:10 - 00:02:03:07 Speaker 2 Calories. Macronutrients. Micronutrients. So making the process super, super seamless. And in this day and age, everyone takes photos of their food anyway, so the vision behind it was that I wanted it to seamlessly integrate into everyone’s lives and make nutrition tracking no longer a chore. And the other aspect of that is I wanted it to no longer be a lonely journey when I used to nutrition track.
00:02:03:07 - 00:02:27:24 Speaker 2 It just used to be such an isolating experience, so it was really important for me to bring that sort of community into gymii. So the other aspect is having a very social and shareable experience on gymii so users can share their meals, see what their friends are eating, like, comment it, get inspiration from other people’s meals, and also just share their journey.
00:02:28:01 - 00:02:40:00 Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that’s super awesome. You mentioned that you’ve had kind of some experience diet tracking. Was this kind of the motivation or the catalyst behind gymii? Like talk to me a bit more about that.
00:02:40:02 - 00:03:13:04 Speaker 2 Yeah. So I’ve been a competitive golfer for 16 years. I started golfing when I was. Oh that’s insane. I know it’s been a while. Started playing competitively from the age of seven all the way through college. So because of my athletic experience, nutrition has always been really important for overall well-being, but also athletic performance. And I’ve tried nutrition tracking here and there, but I was never really able to stay consistent with it.
00:03:13:06 - 00:03:34:03 Speaker 2 Back then, I use myfitnesspal a little bit, but it was just such tedius experience. Like all of us right? And yeah, I’m sure a lot of people have tried the app out. But it was just such a cumbersome experience that I wasn’t able to stick with it. And on the flip side, I also had a lot of exposure to fitness apps or fitness gadgets.
00:03:34:05 - 00:03:53:07 Speaker 2 So I wear the Apple Watch. I love like looking through the amount of steps that my friends have taken throughout the day, just for fun. Same with apps as well. Like, I’m sure a lot of people know about Strava. I use it just to see the trails that my friends are running on. Or like the different half marathons that they’re doing.
00:03:53:07 - 00:04:18:13 Speaker 2 And it’s just a very fun and shareable experience that I felt like was really missing from the nutrition space. Like, I think when people bring up nutrition tracking, there’s almost like this vibe, oh, like it’s so annoying to do or it’s just very negative whenever the topic is brought up compared to fitness. So that was a big inspiration to what I wanted to bring with gymii.
00:04:18:15 - 00:04:48:00 Speaker 1 YYeah, I mean, that’s super awesome. And I love the way you brought in the example Strava, because, I’m, kind of, every now and then user of Strava. And truly, it’s really nice to see your friends being active. It promotes you to run more and try new trails. But also on the flip side, sometimes it can be like a little bit competitive. Like you’re comparing like pace and etc. things like that.
00:04:48:00 - 00:05:03:20 Speaker 1 Like how...So gymii also has a similar kind of social feature with diet tracking. Can you talk a little bit more about community as it applies to nutrition tracking and some of the pros and cons that comes with it?
00:05:03:22 - 00:05:40:14 Speaker 2 Yeah, I think you bring up a really good point. And I think when I first started introducing the idea of social aspects within gymii, I also got some pushback from people because like you said, it could bring some negativity or toxicity when it comes to sharing things and sometimes nutrition is a pretty sensitive topic for people. But the way that we designed to integrate the social features within the app, I think we thought very carefully about this, and there’s a few ways that we wanted to make it a really safe type of social space.
00:05:40:16 - 00:06:06:13 Speaker 2 So the first thing in terms of sharing, we wanted users to have complete control of how many people they wanted to share it to. And for some people, they really only just have one friend on there, and they could also have zero friends that they didn’t want to. But having that one friend as an accountability system, or just like someone really, really close to you who can probably give you a lot of support, knows what you’re going through.
00:06:06:15 - 00:06:37:13 Speaker 2 We wanted users to have the ability to make that circle really, really tight. And even amongst that, like, you don’t have to post every meal like it has. You have entire control of what you want people to see and what you don’t want them to see. So that was really, really important when we were integrating social aspects. I think also in terms of sharing, even though like I think there was some initial pushback, we actually did a lot of market research on whether this was something people wanted.
00:06:37:13 - 00:06:59:01 Speaker 2 So we surveyed it was more than like 400 people. And the overall consensus, like it was 82% of people wanted to share, their nutrition journey and wanted to share their meals with friends. It looked really differently based on each person. Like I said, like some people just wanted that one accountability system. Some people wanted like a wider friend group.
00:06:59:01 - 00:07:35:00 Speaker 2 Just out of curiosity. But I think, like with any social things, there probably is room for some like negative aspects to it. That’s probably unavoidable, but I think it’s overall a net positive and allowing users to share that experience with close friends I think, can have a lot of benefits. Also, like I think when we were developing the app, another really important aspect is we didn’t want it to be too weight or calorie focused like some apps out there do serve that purpose, and I see a use case for that as well.
00:07:35:01 - 00:07:59:18 Speaker 2 But for gymii, we wanted it to be very inclusive. Like if you do have a weight goal, sure. Like that’s awesome and we can help with that. But for some people they just want a nutrition track to boost their immune system or just feel better in general. And we want it to enable users to have the same experience on gymii, if that was what they intended to achieve.
00:07:59:20 - 00:08:24:13 Speaker 2 So when users onboard our app, like, we make sure that we get their goals and every single meal after that they post is what the nutritional information that they see as aligned to their goals. So that is also another aspect where we just wanted it to be super inclusive to everyone and just make nutrition tracking really, really accessible and fun.
00:08:24:15 - 00:08:52:18 Speaker 1 Yeah, I love that. And and there’s nothing better for a startup founder to just be listening to their customers, right. Or future potential customers. And I’m maybe a little bit curious since, like you mentioned, the way, the way diet tracking is made simple is kind of using an AI algorithm behind it. I guess, like. Where do you see
00:08:52:18 - 00:08:55:19 Speaker 1 AI taking the health and wellness space?
00:08:55:21 - 00:08:59:08 Speaker 2 Yeah, that’s such an interesting question. That’s something that I thought..
00:08:59:10 - 00:09:04:09 Speaker 1 It could totally be a hot take or a personal perspective.
00:09:04:11 - 00:09:37:14 Speaker 2 Yeah, I think it’s going to massively change that space. Well, I think I think there’s two pieces to the puzzle here. A, health and nutrition itself as a space I think is just increasing exponentially. If you think about people around us, I feel like the overall awareness of health and wellness is so much higher, and also the overall desire to live a healthy life is also just way higher in Gen Z and millennials and the younger generations.
00:09:37:16 - 00:10:02:11 Speaker 2 And I think with the space, having an uptake like AI is going to play such a big role in that in a few ways. Like I think in consumer apps, it’s going to be similar things like gymii, where things are traditionally where maybe really tedious and really hard to do can be minimized so much to the point where it’s just so much more accessible for everyone.
00:10:02:13 - 00:10:03:24 Speaker 1 Yeah.
00:10:04:01 - 00:10:33:00 Speaker 2 Like random example. But I went to the gym with my brother today, and he just pulls up an AI app that’s telling him the exact workout to go through. And I think it’s just like little things like that where it’s just going to make the the daily aspects of health and wellness so much more accessible. I think on a broader scale, I’ve also seen a lot of startups trying to disrupt the healthcare system and a US healthcare system.
00:10:33:02 - 00:11:09:21 Speaker 2 Because obviously there’s a lot of inefficiencies. It’s not the best system. So that itself is like a huge, huge industry. And startups can really go into a very specific nook of the whole system. And every nook is like a multi, I don't know how much money, but like a ton of money just in that space. So I just feel like there’s so many different applications in so many ways that AI could come in and completely transform the space. Consumer apps, like, what I’m doing is just a very, very tiny piece of it.
00:11:09:23 - 00:11:39:22 Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, I completely agree with what you’re saying in terms of the broader like health, like health, health care space, like starting even like there there’s already been like entrance of like AI applications within like as early as, like helping with clinical trials to moving to like administrative and the hospitals private practices and all that. And then there’s also like brokerage shop with insurance like like definitely like it’s it’s kind of a big play within health care these days.
00:11:39:24 - 00:12:23:19 Speaker 1 So, As you probably not have known, but me and Selina have known each other for quite a while. And I’ve been following gymii’s journey for, probably from the inception of what was a, fitness design, application. One of the most impressive things about gymii and Selina’s building process to me was that prior to onboarding Zach, gymii’s CTO, she wrote almost every line of code and why this is crazy is because during college, Selina used to come to me to ask for help on coding homeworks
00:12:23:21 - 00:12:29:16 Speaker 1 like me, a very like non-technical person.
00:12:29:18 - 00:12:30:22 Speaker 2 So Selina... You really not old.
00:12:30:24 - 00:12:38:00 Speaker 1 What are some advice you have for not so technical founders who want to build a software product?
00:12:38:02 - 00:13:04:16 Speaker 2 Yeah, that’s a great question. Thinking back, I feel like when I first started picking up computer science in college, it was so intimidating back then. with large language models these days, With large language models these days, it’s insane the amount of things you could learn, like, it’s absolutely mind blowing. You literally have like, super intelligence at your fingertips for like 20 bucks a month.
00:13:04:16 - 00:13:28:19 Speaker 2 Like, that’s like three cups of coffee in New York. Like, that is really quite mind blowing. And I think anyone has an idea and is passionate enough about that idea can definitely go and build it. Like, I just kind of threw myself into the deep end from the very beginning and just figure it out step by step.
00:13:28:21 - 00:14:08:24 Speaker 2 But having like, LLMs (Large Language Models) as your partner in crime can make the world of a difference, because whatever you don’t know, you just ask it and you’ll figure it out. And I think if you have enough dedication to that project, like nothing is impossible. I’m still really early in the journey, but I do think that the fact that I basically built it in two months, the MVP in two months, with no prior full stack experience, is a testament to how powerful these systems and like, how if you’re willing to harness and leverage it, it’s really just that’s simple.
00:14:08:24 - 00:14:30:06 Speaker 2 You just gotta keep going at it and build something that you’re passionate about. Like, I think having the traditional CS (Computer Science) experience definitely helps. And that’s also why I’m doing a master’s in computer science now, because I do want to have a stronger technical foundation. But I think just find a project and go for it. And that’s what I did.
00:14:30:06 - 00:14:59:08 Speaker 2 And it somehow worked. There's a ton of tools that are helpful out there. For example, I would use V0 a lot for the front end as well. And just to get a type of design mock up that would help and then translate it into code, to then use in gymii. So there’s a lot of different ways that you could go around it, or even just like asking for inspiration on, like how to do certain things.
00:14:59:08 - 00:15:26:03 Speaker 2 If I’m like stuck on a certain feature that I don’t know, what’s the best way to implement it. I think it’s just a matter of being like, creative and on the spot and knowing knowing what you don’t know. I mean, so that you know how to use it. Well and ask the right thing. Yeah. And there’s also a ton of, like, AI tools built into it, like coding IDEs as well.
00:15:26:03 - 00:15:43:08 Speaker 2 So you can literally prompt it on the fly as you’re coding. And these tools are just like popping up left and right these days. So figuring out what works best for you and what works best for your application, the possibilities are just endless.
00:15:43:10 - 00:16:12:04 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. I mean, that’s super amazing. And also, I agree with you, there’s such an overwhelming amount of apps that allow you to develop in an easier way, but then you also get overwhelmed by just the sheer volume of, all of them and figuring out like, what are the differences? Where are the limitations? Because obviously, especially if you have like kind of building blocks type building, like you can’t customize as much as you want if you just like write the actual code yourself.
00:16:12:06 - 00:16:16:02 Speaker 1 Yeah. And obviously you have a background in Python, right?
00:16:16:04 - 00:16:25:20 Speaker 2 Yeah, I, I think one caveat is like a danger is not to just copy it, like blindly copy and paste.
00:16:25:21 - 00:16:36:22 Speaker 1 So talk to me a little bit about how you thought about funding gymii. And if you’ve had, like, VC conversations and like, what were they like?
00:16:36:24 - 00:17:09:16 Speaker 2 Yeah. So yes, I was speaking to VCs, for the first few months of building gymii. And I think what I kept hearing from VCs is that. A lot of these guys are not super looking into consumer, the consumer space in general right now. I didn’t understand it at all in the beginning. Like, I was like, oh, that consumer is like such a big market.
00:17:09:18 - 00:17:38:12 Speaker 2 And it’s like, yeah, like if you think about like all the big apps, it’s like they’re all consumer apps. Now I definitely understand, like I just feel like the hardest part about consumer is that ultimately your clients are really unpredictable. Like if you try to serve consumers, you just I think there’s only so many factors that you can control, and then you just have to launch it and see what people’s reactions are.
00:17:38:12 - 00:18:03:13 Speaker 2 And a lot of times, consumers behave in ways that are just like very unpredictable. And I think for VCs, what’s important for them is they see a very clean path to profitability. And a lot of times, like it just means that it’s a bit harder and consumer a lot harder. In consumer space compared to the B2B space.
00:18:03:14 - 00:18:50:21 Speaker 2 So I think it took me a while to understand that from the VC perspective. But once I did, I think it actually helped my mindset because, I think when I was talking to VCs, it definitely put me into a mindset of like, how can I please these investors, potential investors? Whereas once it was clear that at least for gymii, it would require us to at least gain some traction first before it’s, a conversation we can have about VC funding that actually put me in such a clearer mindset, because our goal and like it was our goal all along, was just to build a product that users genuinely love and like.
00:18:50:23 - 00:19:18:18 Speaker 2 Ultimately, we are serving the end person who’s using the app, and that’s that opinion is really all that matters to me, and I just want to build something that they truly can use in their day to day life and love. And if I can do that, and gymii is that app and I can get those users, get that revenue, then like everything will just fall into place after.
00:19:18:18 - 00:19:35:18 Speaker 2 So it’s it was almost a cleaner mindset for me now that we’re just bootstrapping and, preparing to release it soon. So yeah, that that’s my general thought on the VC space solution. Yeah.
00:19:35:20 - 00:19:37:03 Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean,
00:19:37:05 - 00:19:39:11 Speaker 2 that’s a good question.
00:19:39:13 - 00:20:01:06 Speaker 1 I think it definitely answered my question. And then. Okay, yeah, it’s super interesting. I think, a lot of people talk about AI. Maybe it was a sentiment about like 2 or 3 years ago, but everyone thought about like, oh, like AI you have to have VC money because development costs are so expensive, but then you have this like insane scalability afterwards.
00:20:01:11 - 00:20:28:16 Speaker 1 And now it’s like with all the big LLM (large language models) that you can call, the dynamic shifted a little bit. VCs are definitely a lot more hesitant about AI powered startups now just because of the lower barriers of entry and also just like being able to handle the consumer dynamic because, I mean, consumers are always insanely fickle.
00:20:28:18 - 00:20:29:08 Speaker 1 Yeah.
00:20:29:10 - 00:20:32:03 Speaker 2 Yeah, definitely.
00:20:32:05 - 00:20:56:14 Speaker 1 But I totally feel you in the sense that, when you look at all these amazing 2000s startups, you think of what - Uber, DoorDash I mean, I don’t know why I was thinking Yahoo, but like, Yahoo is definitely not one, but like the Yahoo guys that like, made some of the bigger startups.
00:20:56:16 - 00:21:01:00 Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean definitely like, oh sorry.
00:21:01:02 - 00:21:03:10 Speaker 1 No, no, no, I was just like.
00:21:03:12 - 00:21:24:18 Speaker 2 I, I think it’s quite natural that for the everyday person, if you think about the biggest apps or the biggest companies out there, a lot of them are consumer apps. Just because that’s probably what you use on a day to day basis, like Uber, Spotify, I don’t know, like all these apps are just like definitely comes top to mind.
00:21:24:20 - 00:21:56:22 Speaker 2 I think, like in terms of what you said about, the amount of development costs, I think like you’ve said, the dynamic has definitely shifted, like to build an AI app right now, the barrier to entry for that is really so low. Like if you think about in gymii’s case, we were able to build the MVP in two months, launch it within like six months ish with the cost is like very, very minimal.
00:21:56:24 - 00:22:28:17 Speaker 2 Ultimately, like in the back end, the costs for hosting our servers, for using vision language models like those costs are a fraction, honestly, of like what I thought it would be initially. So I think it’s also like in terms of VC money, founders have to think about like A) are they looking to invest in the space and also B) like, does your company really need VC money at that moment?
00:22:28:19 - 00:22:54:22 Speaker 1 Yeah, like completely fair. It’s all about like how how you think about creating that, like that amazing product with AI embedded. Not having the AI is like your your main selling point, right? Like it’s about like everything around and making it better. So Y Combinator, one of the most well-known accelerator programs, often preaches the importance of having a co-founder.
00:22:54:24 - 00:23:06:24 Speaker 1 You were a solo founder for a couple months, for quite some time. So can you talk to me a little bit about, like, the pros and cons of the experience?
00:23:07:01 - 00:23:34:15 Speaker 2 Yeah, I think this question is something where, depending on which founder you ask, everyone’s going to have very different opinions on. My personal opinion is I am so glad I found a co-founder. I think when I was a solo founder, up until December. Yeah, December. Yeah, December. The pro of that is you can really do whatever you want every day.
00:23:34:15 - 00:23:58:01 Speaker 2 Like you have no manager to report to. You have no co-founder to, you know, let them know what you’re doing during the day. And I could have a To-Do list, wake up one day and be like, actually, I want to prioritize that and just go for it. But that comes with a lot of cons because I think it can get quite disorganized.
00:23:58:01 - 00:24:27:17 Speaker 2 And I’m someone who, like, just kind of if I think I need to do that all of a sudden, I’ll just like, go ahead and do it and spend the whole day on it. But having a co-founder as like a check and balance was really what is really important to me and will have basically check ins to make sure that we’re doing things that are A) like our strengths and B) the highest priority for the company.
00:24:27:19 - 00:25:07:08 Speaker 2 I think that is one aspect that I really, really value in having a co-founder. And I think the second aspect is I didn’t realize going into my entrepreneurship journey how lonely of a journey it is. I think I was somewhat warned about it beforehand. But it was a very stark contrast from being in college, being part of a sports team, then going into corporate where I had an amazing team, and amazing colleagues, to then being like completely alone in the journey.
00:25:07:10 - 00:25:28:18 Speaker 2 Yeah. And it was like really lonely in the sense that I had friends, obviously, including you, who are super, super supportive. My family was super supportive, but like the day to day of what I was doing was like kind of unknown to everyone. And I also didn’t want to burden everyone with like all the things that I was thinking of.
00:25:28:20 - 00:25:50:22 Speaker 2 And I think once I brought in a co-founder and now the team has expanded a little bit, it’s just makes the experience a lot more fun too, because now we’re all in it together. Every day. We’re like, okay, should we do this? Should we do that? What should we prioritize? And having that shared experience is just really, really special.
00:25:50:24 - 00:26:11:20 Speaker 2 So yeah, I am personally a big advocate of finding a co-founder. And also I just think like startup, like, I’m sure there there’s people who, like, can manage everything by themselves and maybe have the experience to be able to do that. But in general, I feel like the the to dos of running a startup is just endless.
00:26:11:20 - 00:26:35:04 Speaker 2 And there’s so many different categories of things from like the engineering side to the business side to the legal side, to the social media side. Like the the task list is endless. So I think like having someone there to each person take the things that they’re the best at is just going to make the company move forward so much faster.
00:26:35:06 - 00:26:44:02 Speaker 1 Yeah. And I will also say that even without startup life, the two degrees is always feels very overwhelming.
00:26:44:04 - 00:26:46:07 Speaker 2 For sure.
00:26:46:09 - 00:27:08:21 Speaker 1 Adult life. But it was also very hard for you to find a co-founder, right? Like how did you go about it? And I think what really made you have the confidence in and Zach to have this long term partnership because like, yeah, didn’t like probably it is like a couple years, right?
00:27:08:23 - 00:27:33:19 Speaker 2 Yeah definitely. I mean like if this if like our launch goal goes well and everything goes well, like this is going to be for a pretty long term period of time. And I think the average startup length is like 7 to 10 years. I think, but yeah. How did I find Zach? It was definitely it took me a while.
00:27:33:19 - 00:28:28:06 Speaker 2 I started searching essentially when I started school in August, and we didn’t, agree as co-founders until December. So it was like four months of searching. I think I’m trying to think of the exact way I knew that he was going to be an amazing co-founder. I think one thing that helped was having a trial period, like because we were both in the same master’s program at Cornell Tech, I was able to collaborate with him on school projects as well, just to, you know, see if we work well as, co-founders and a trial project and then also and gymii, he essentially joined the team back in October.
00:28:28:08 - 00:28:54:16 Speaker 2 So it was like two months of trial as well on gymii, because I think it was very clear from the get go that his experience would be very complementary to mine and be very strong as a CTO because he’s done a few startups before himself so really, really loved the startup space. And all of his startups were in the social media space as well.
00:28:54:18 - 00:29:17:04 Speaker 2 But I think, like, there’s definitely cases where someone could be a great engineer and like, have all the experiences, but if you don’t click with them, it just doesn’t work. So it was really, really important to me that we had that time to see if we can communicate well, to see if we like can just work well with each other and work really, really efficiently.
00:29:17:06 - 00:29:45:01 Speaker 2 And I think like by the time it was end of November, I was just so sure, like we would just be able to split up tasks, get it done, have really, really clear communication. And also be able to disagree with each other. Like I think that is really, really important when finding a co-founder, finding someone who’s willing to challenge on your ideas, which Zach and I definitely go back and forth about, what’s the best thing to do.
00:29:45:01 - 00:30:08:05 Speaker 2 And I think having that type of dynamic, but keeping it friendly in terms of the disagreement and being able to, like, calmly reach a conclusion together, is a very powerful dynamic. And I think, yeah, Zach’s been an amazing co-founder, and I’m so excited to see how far this partnership can go.
00:30:08:07 - 00:30:44:23 Speaker 1 Yeah, I love that. And I also always think it’s such a good sign when like, kind of co-founders speak very highly of each other. And it is really important to have the trial period. Right? Because like, on paper you could match, but it is like a marriage, like you need to like, figure out who takes or like what aggravates, or like, like how does this person communicate, that and I, I know for the past few months, the team has been like super focus on getting the product ready to launch.
00:30:45:00 - 00:30:55:08 Speaker 1 By the time this podcast airs, gymii will be live in the App Store and Google Play Store. So what are some of your top priorities moving forward?
00:30:55:10 - 00:31:20:23 Speaker 2 Yeah, I think now it really is just a matter of fact, of getting gymii out there and letting the world know about gymii. Like the app is finished, honestly, and it’s ready to launch and we’re spending a lot of time on the marketing aspects right now. So we're very active on our social media, trying to make it fun, trying to make it engaging.
00:31:21:00 - 00:31:53:07 Speaker 2 We’re partnering with Micro-Influencers so that they can help get the word out there as well. Like I think now is the flip side of my founder journey, where the initial part was all like in the weeds of engineering and trying to get every feature perfect. Oh, it’s never going to be perfect, but getting it, good. And now it’s the flip side of how do I market gymii? And really just put it out there and get it to our target users.
00:31:53:11 - 00:32:14:17 Speaker 2 So from now to launch, it’s all efforts in that. And once we launch, we’ll be able to get a lot of feedback from real users out there. Like up to now, we’re beta testing with more than 100 people, but, really getting it out to strangers and seeing what the response is and iterating and growing from there.
00:32:14:19 - 00:32:19:00 Speaker 1 That seems like a busy next couple months for the team.
00:32:19:02 - 00:32:43:14 Speaker 2 Definitely busy, but it’s really fun. I think a great thing about entrepreneurship is because you handle all these different aspects of the company, you can jump around and like every day just looks so different, like, or even within the day. It just looks so different. Like today, the entire morning I was spending on the engineering coding side and then I switched over to making a reel.
00:32:43:16 - 00:32:57:19 Speaker 2 And then you switch over to like reaching out to Micro-Influencers and you switch over to like meeting with the team and figuring out next steps is just all over the place, so, so chaotic. But in a really, really fun way.
00:32:57:21 - 00:33:10:21 Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, I love that, and it’s super funny how you mentioned, like, creating media content. Like, I think I’m also personally trying to create media content for the podcast, and it’s like a really humbling experience.
00:33:10:23 - 00:33:13:13 Speaker 2 It's not easy.
00:33:13:15 - 00:33:30:10 Speaker 1 Yeah. Honestly, like kudos to like all the like student ambassadors , content creators that can do it. But I take a video and then look at myself and I’m like, wow. Like I need like two more layers of makeup on before I go live. No, I'm.
00:33:30:10 - 00:34:00:07 Speaker 2 so excited to see the Founders In Motion content, but I definitely agree. It’s a very humbling experience. And also like kind of scary to put yourself out there. Like, I see a lot of founders right now who are documenting their building process and basically making that whole process public to the world. I think what we’re doing with gymii right now is a bit of that, not fully, because if I were to do that, I should have done that six months ago.
00:34:00:09 - 00:34:02:00 Speaker 2 But I am... But it’s never too late
00:34:02:02 - 00:34:02:20 Speaker 1 you know.
00:34:02:22 - 00:34:27:00 Speaker 2 It is never too late. Yeah. I have been mixing it up with, like, a day in my life. Kind or just showing me as the builder and also a user of gymii, which I think is engaging content. But but it is scary going from like I used to have my Instagram be private and just like, everyone on my social media I basically knew to now
00:34:27:00 - 00:34:49:09 Speaker 2 like putting myself out there. But it’s part of the game. I think it’s good exposure. And it’s also, once you get used to it, it’s fine. Like it’s I’ve been posting myself for. Honestly, it hasn’t been that long like for a week, but it does get less like less and less scary as you go.
00:34:49:11 - 00:35:20:08 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, that's super cool. Yeah. I mean, thank you so much, Selina, for joining us. It’s just been such an absolute honor speaking to you this morning. The audience, you’ll definitely hear from Selina again, because I will use any excuse to speak to Selina. But I’m so excited for gymii to finally launch and for people to kind of get their hands on a really cool app that I’ve been beta testing for the last couple months.
00:35:20:10 - 00:35:23:02 Speaker 1 But yeah, thank you, Selena.
00:35:23:03 - 00:35:25:03 Speaker 2 The honor was mine. This was very fun.